The following questions were posted on EAS board at iVilliage.
Some truly provocative answers from many people. It is worth the read.
I answered as honestly as possible. My problems with being on such board as EAS is that I have been on both sides of the affair. The one side, way too many times. Those scars reveal a lot about me.
Now as I pass into the 13th week of No Contact I still feel twinges about Karen. I do miss her. I almost miss some of her problems. I have to constantly remind myself, that I am doing this for MY good.
I am posting this for those that don’t go to EAS and would just like some light reading.
Enjoy………….
1. What is/are your reason(s) for being here?
It has changed over the time that I have been ending this A. (1 ½ years) Originally I lurked and tried to get the feel of the group and was hesitant to join in, due to me being a male. This group occasionally is not friendly towards males. I was looking for the magic bullet that would help me end my relationship. I knew shortly after starting my A that it wasn’t healthy for me. That was a long time ago, and many endings ago. I still come to read, even though I don’t post as often as I used to. I do have fundamental differences of opinion and can’t support some of the ideas expressed due to my personal circumstances. I am a big believer in NC and know that it works, if you prepare yourself properly and follow the block and walk rule. You have to have commitment to ending the affair. You must give up all hope that it will somehow work out. You have to be honest with yourself.
2. Do you think that there was really “love” between you and your XAP? If your answer is “no,” tell us how you came to this conclusion. If your answer is “yes,” please define what love means to you.
Yes. We started our A as friends and it grew into more (honey-moon stage) and but then it just never progressed from there. I was in love with her and I guess her not so much. It wasn’t for my lack of trying, and many attempts at it to make it go the distance. I would have left my W if I had the opportunity to have continued the relationship and if it would have grown and if I thought we could have made something of it. I was looking for more of a commitment from her and she could never give it.
3. What do you think it is/was within you that lead you down the A path? I say” within you,” because having an A is/was all about you, whether you understand this yet or not.
It was the lack of what I thought my marriage should be all about and I still do. I am another one of those men who are in a marriage that sex is non-existent. My wife had a commitment to her work that came before me. It seemed like everything came before me. She has been diagnosed as Passive/Aggressive, and has her own problems with self-esteem that has led her to many affairs over the years. Those DDays have left their damage and now after much counseling and therapy, we just survive. She and I in more of brother/sister, or friend type of relationship than what I think a marriage should be. There is no passion. I wasn’t looking for an affair, or another woman, I just fell into it. I wasn’t trying to hurt my wife, I was helping myself to what I thought was happiness.
4. Do you agree or disagree that having an A was a personal choice based on selfishness and/or self entitlement? If you disagree, please elaborate.
Agree to both. I think that I was looking to fulfill my own needs, and if it is selfish, then I am guilty. I was trying to make myself happy. I feel we are all entitled to be happy.
5. Can you agree with the statement, “We are not bad people, we just made bad choices.”
This is where my fundamental difference comes in. I know I am not a bad person. The bad choice I made wasn’t in falling in love, it was falling in love with the wrong person. I never thought she was my soul mate or anything like that. She just turned out to be the wrong person.
6. For those of you who are now Tweeners or further along, do you have any regrets, and if so, what are they?
LOL! I have done this too many times. (started/failed) I have made it past the six/seven week jaunts many times more than I want to count. Past the 90 days, also the six month mark and foolishly I have always slipped back in contact, but not necessarily into the affair. Most times I allowed myself to slip back into contact, hoping that I could work our friendship, and it would lead me back into a relationship that would eventually put us together permanently. I regret ever thinking that there would ever be any change in her. We all know that “what you see, is what you get”. She was never going to change, and I know I am not, so I was beating a dead horse. It’s hard to accept failure at something that you want so bad.
This ending time I have made the commitment. I am in my thirteenth week this time. I have laid the ground work so that she can NOT contact me. The only chance of contact is “accidental-in person” contact, and I think I am prepared for that.
7. What was going on in your life pre-A that may have played a part in your decision to cross the line? Do you now see this as being an excuse, or do still think your actions were justifiable? If so, how so?
The truth is my excuse. Justifiable? Depending on your moral code is the answer to that. My marriage just wasn’t working and my needs weren’t being met. No other excuse. I was just looking to satisfy myself. Selfish? Yes, but I can’t depend on anyone else to be looking out for me.
8. For those of you long out of your A, have you forgiven yourself? Have you forgiven your XAP? How long did it take (approximately).
I feel no guilt what-so-ever. I feel no animosity towards my xAP and I wish her well. I of course wish she could have been what I wanted her to be.
9. Who can admit that this was the worst mistake they ever made and wish they could turn back the clock? On the flip side, who can admit that their A, although wrong, was the catalyst needed to make those much needed changes in your thinking and behavior? If so, what are those positive changes and how have they improved the quality of your life?
Another fundamental difference of opinions. I have made many, far worse mistakes in my life than this one. This one just hurts the worst. This one has taken me the longest to get over and recovery is still alluding me. The mistake here was falling in love with someone who was not ready to love me back for whatever reasons that she has. (There could be many) Post affair behavior? I have or at least am trying to go back to the way that I was pre-affair. She is gone from my life. I have gone back to my old life. I was enjoying life, and making the best of life that I could, and am now working on getting back to being the old me. I am blessed with many friends who make my life enjoyable and keep me busy and out of the affair mode of mind.
Iddy, I hope you come back on Thursday to give me my wings that you owe me, for this time and for all the times I made it before. My best thoughts to you, a fellow Michigander. Keep the faith.